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it is going viral. not only that, he says it was a sign that came at the perfect time because he was struggling with his spirituality. god is telling him i'm still here. >> have a great weekend. bill: want to start with a story breaking overseas. an american has been killed in iraq. isis fighters go on the offensive in a town called kirkuk. isis fighters hitting a power plant, targeting police. some of the bitterness from the trail in 2016 spilling over at an annual dinner in new york city. the usually light-hearted event getting tense when donald trump and hillary clinton entered the room. "a" is for awkward.

bill is for bill. welcome to america temperatures newsroom. martha: good morning bill. bill: we miss vegas. martha: happy friday. i'm martha maccallum. the al smith dinner was last night. it always comes right before the big election it's to let off steam and benefit catholic charities. there was some traditional roast-style jokes going back and forth at the nominee's expense. but then it went south pretty quickly. with the hands of god, and nobody can compete with god, is that correct? nobody. nobody. no contest. it's great to be here with 1,000 wonderful people, or as i call it, a small intimate dinner with

some friends. or as hillary calls it, her largest crowd of the season. >> donald, if in the any time you don't like what i'm saying feel free to stands up and shout "wrong." >> we have proven we can be civil. just before take the da air -- s hillary accidents alley bumped into me and said pardon me. >> people look stapt to you of liberty and see a strong symbol, donald looks at the statue of liberty and sees a 4. maybe a 5 if she lose the torch and tablet and lose her hair. you know what would be a good

number for a woman? 45. >> hillary is so corrupt she got kicked off the watergate commission. how corrupt do you have to be to get kicked off the watergate commission. >> i have had to listen to donald for three full debates. he said i don't have any stamina. that is 4 1/2 hours. >> i wasn't really sure if hillary was going to be here tonight. because i guess you didn't her an invitation by email. now, some of you haven't noticed, hillary isn't laughing as much as the rest of us, that's because she knows the jokes. all of the jokes were given to her in advance of the dinner by

donna brazile. >> if donald does win it will be awkward at the annual president's photo and not just with bill. how is barack going to get past the muslim ban. >> hillary has forgotten more things than most of us will very, very know. bill: what's happening? good morning to you. how about the love in that room? >> that was astonishing. this was mitt romney high water mark in a lot of ways. turned in this sterling perform answer. very importantly, you rib yourself. this kind of humor requires for good natured charity event. good natured humor, you poke the other guy but you make fun of

yourself. and usually it's a great departure from the usual grind of the trail. but these people really dislike email other and it really came through. bill: we were waiting for a handshake. it came at the end of the night. cardinal dolan was on nbc earlier today. than was interaction. >> there was some very touchy moments. when we were going in, i said can we pray together. after the little prayer, mr. trump turned to secretary clinton said you are one tough and talented woman. >> but it did not evidence itself on the stage. it's sort of the way a lot of this campaign has played out. hillary clinton effectively needles donald trump and he gets

mad. some of the lines that he delivered could have been good or passable if he had had a smile on his face or been in that spirit. but she definitely got under his skin and he got mad. bill: the there is an under current, that is the criticism toward the catholic faith a week ago. cardinal dolan wrote a piece about it. here is one of those interviews. it's an amazing bastardization of the faith, they must be attracted to the severely backwards gender relations and totally unaware of christian democracy. dolan is in the middle and there was no apology offered before or during that dinner. what the mainstream media is picking up on is trump was

booed. trump said hillary clinton didn't like catholics. that was meant to refer back to these wikileaks documents. >> obviously you wouldn't do that with a charity roast with everybody there. the right thing to do would not be to bring up that accusation there. hillary clinton got help that way she would like the support of catholic voters and like to have the church father on her side as she wades into the end of this race. she'll have to make a separate peace. she doesn't want to give credence to the hacked emails. but i'm sure in private she had moments when she had to make her contrite heart clear. bill: you call it a grudge match. talk to you later. martha. >> there was another moment that urprised people, the

nominees did shake hand. and it took cardinal dolan to bring them together. donald trump and hillary clinton when they took the stage in the last debate you saw, they just walked out beside the podium. it's ridiculous that they can't just shake hand. they had it last night. one of the things, bill, you could feel -- i think most everybody wanted with to be with them. wanted to laugh with them. both of them got as i judged it equal applause when they got up to speak, people really enthusiastic, wanted them to be funny. it's an opportunity to show another size of yourself. donald trump keeps missing those moments to show that humble gracious side and he got some good laughs when he did that.

but then it got ugly. bill: in vegas the trump team told us the clinton folks let them know there would not be a handshake. martha: which is unbelievable. we are going to show a clip of mitt romney tor another side of himself. we are going to have more analysis of the big dinner coming up. in the meantime this fox news alert. the first american killed in the operation to retake mosul. this as isis strikes back, attacking targets in the city of kirkuk killing at least 11 people. john huddy is live in our middle east bureau. is the attack in kirkuk a

diversionary attack. >> it's a tactic isis has used before. in the battle to retake ramadi, isis launched suicide attacks in and around baghdad to try to get resources to that location. it appears this attack in kirkuk could be the same thing. militants stormed the power plant armed with explosies. they took at least 13 people hostage. they specifically asked to see several iranian workers who were immediately killed before the attackers apparently killed themselves up killing the other whose tannings as well. iran has been working in the fight against isis in iraq. isis fighters also stormed a government compound in kirkuk. so far 18 people we are hearing possibly have been killed, maybe as many as a dozen isis

militants. the fighting we understand continues there. it's very fluid. the numbers could go up. the state of emergency has been declared and friday prayers have been canceled. >> they haven't gotten into the heart of mosul with the population of more than a million. so president obama defending obamacare. this will be on the ballot in 18 days. comparing the problems to a starter home at picks up as you know. look at that. >> another round of leaked emails from the clinton team that show another possible case and the starkest and most well defined of pay-to-play. $12 million and hillary clinton negotiated the deal herself.

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bill: a new batch of wikileaks emails showing a $12 million donation hillary clinton secured for her speech in morocco, and apparently it was all of her idea. huma abedin writing she created this mess and she knows it. end quote. $12 million. juan williams and mercedes schlapp. good morning to you. juan in a million and mercy me. $12 million. this was done a month after she launched her bid for the white house. >> hillary clinton should put a for sale sign on the white house lawn if she were to become president of the united states. in order to gain access to the clintons you pay.

you pay for the clinton foundation. huma abedin said she is creating this mess, right? hillary clinton was the one that was personally involved in this negotiation with the moroccan government, and it raises a ton of red flags. bill: chris wallace asked about the pledge. so much for that. >> i think she pivoted away from that. it looked like trump had her on the defensive. she never gave the speech it was after she left her office at the state department. while she was secretary of state she charged the government morocco with corruption and arbitrary arrest of her citizens. i think you have a moment where she is saying i would like to

give that speech when i left the state department. but then the question was, would it look as if it was some kind of quid pro quo. >> here she was just brokering the deem, juan. she is brokering the deal. >> she is about to run for president. she is personally involved in the negotiations. she ended up not going to the meeting. but her family ended up going. president bill clinton and chelsea went. it's too close for comfort. it keeps on this pattern of the appearance of the conflict of interest. you had a mining company involved that violated human rights. it's a continue sewell pattern of the clintons being involved with shady companies with foreign governments who oppress women's rights and gay rights.

for america -- >> i think you have to understand they are running a charitable foundation that did good work. and what you hava is a division in terms of her role. she left the state department. she becomes aware that even as she is trying to commit to help the foundation which is doing good work that it's too close to the start of the campaign as you just points out. then her season staff said she created this mess. she was trying to be a loyal soldier to the family foundation. but she realizes this opens the door to the kinds of charges we are talking about this morning. but that's not corruption. that's confusion. >> we can argue on the basis of corruption rather than confusion. but when she was at the state department there was a situation in haiti where you had the friends of bill clinton being

taken care of. you had the $1 million deal where bill clinton got that 5-minute meeting. it's incident after incident that creates a strike appearance of these conflicts of interest and she is putting the white house up for sale. bill: i appreciate the case you both made. >> i'm right, bill. bill: not just right or wrong. i just think juan wants to sleep in the lincoln bedroom if hillary clinton wins. i have 30 seconds to finds out from both of you whether all this stuff matters to voters. i think it does, but i think perhaps in a different year it might matter more. >> it's 18 days until the election. there is not a lot of time to turn this around. americans do not trust hillary clinton. but they have to make that

decision. do they feel she is the safe pick to be the president? obviously trump has his own baggage. it's an interesting case. >> when she pivoted away from this, it's troubling ground, she went right to russia and the idea this an effort by putin. >> my head is spinning. juan in a million. mercedes, thanks. martha: brand-new sticker shock when it comes to obamacare. the states seeing the biggest price hikes and why the president still says do not worry, it's just your starter home, folks. it will be okay in the end. plus we'll talk about this. that's not supposed to happen. the smashing is not supposed to

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martha: get ready for another spike in your obamacare premiums. it is coming. major insurers have pulled out of this plan. rising prices have put. >> it's still just a first step like building a starter home or buying the starter home. it's a lot better than not having a home.

but you hope over time you make some improvements. martha: charles payne is the host of "making money" with charles payne on the fox business network. we were told it would be a starter home and cost everybody 30% more, 40% more. charles: there was a lite any of promises. premiums would go down, it wouldn't add to the deficit. the list goes on and on of broken promises. i thought it was a horrible analogy. the insurance industry put this together to save the insurance industry or protect the insurance industry. martha: the white house made deals with them. the white house rubber stamped it. you look at insurance company stocks.

when they signed this into law it went through the roof. they knew people who didn't have insurance and had preexisting conditions would come on and it would be very expensive. so they reimbursed the insurance companies. if someone's health costs for $60,000 to $200,000 they would be reimbursed. that's gone away. you can't do anything with this with respect to a real marketplace situation. it's not balanced enough. you don't get enough people in there who are going to pay and suck up all the different needs. it's a disaster. but it was a well-advertised disaster. >> everybody knew there was no way you could pay for what would

be proposed. the president's preference would have been a single payer plan. is there a way to bail this out? is that where hillary clinton will take us if she is president. >> think about people making up to 4% above poverty. that might be enticing for middle class family. to say the government more or less will pay the majority of your healthcare bill. it comes enticing to people who will be hit with huge increases. i'm pretty sure that's hillary's plan. i think that's been their plan all along. the notion is people get free health insurance. and they also pay 100% tax on gas and another tax here and another tax there.

nothing is free. the money is fungible. and those have been stagnant economies for years. martha: businesses are hiring fewer and fewer people. charles: i have a small business within i have a small research firm. and we have been devastated. it's hard to articulate to it your employees. it's been a no-win for small business. martha: starter home, charles. charles: spend the weekend in that starter home. bill: donald trump and hillary clinton taking the stage again in prime time. the light-hearted affair did not last long. but there were moments from both of them. so did they miss an opportunity? what do you think? >> i'm told hillary went to confession before tonight's

debate. but the priest was having a hard time when he asked her about her sins and she said she couldn't remember 39 times. you can run an errand. (music playing) ♪ push it real good... (announcer vo) or you can take a joyride. bye bye, errands, we sing out loud here. siriusxm. road happy.

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commission. sheer she is tonight in public pretending not to hate catholics. >> people look at the a to you of liberty and they see a proud symbol of our history as a nation of immigrants, a beacon of heabeacon -- beacon of hope r people around the world. donald looks at the statue of liberty and sees a four. maybe a five if she loses the torch and tablet and changes her hair. >> coming out of the cold i have had to seat between our two candidates which is probably the iciest place in the planet. martha: i'm joined by father harold murray. what's your take away? >> i was disappointed that the

candidates engaged in another debate slamming each other. this is a charity event that's supposed to highlight self-deprecating humor in honor of al smith it was not suppose to be a continuation of the debate. and unfortunately both of them did that. martha: he said hillary hates catholics. we are talking about the jen palmieri exchange. what she said, she was referring to rupert murdoch raising his children catholic. she said their rich friend wouldn't understand if they become evangelicals. then cardinal dolan was incensed about that. >> it's extraordinarily patronizing and insulting to catholics. i had meetings with secretary

clinton and i found myself in admiration of what she said and her openness to religious freedom. i hope she'll distance herself from these insulting remarks of her chief of staff. martha: she could have found a way to do that with humor involved. she did not do that. >> very disappointing. give what her staff said about the catholic faith. there should have been a statement saying i disown everything that was raid in those emails and i'm not going to try to defend them. we should not let catholicism in any form enter into the campaign. i hope mrs. clinton will turn around and say she cannot tolerate any catholic bigotry in the campaign and pope francis defending her positions on the ecology.

if someone wants to baptize a child a catholic, it becomes a discussion on the campaign? i find it horrendous. martha: if that der risive comment would be directed towards another religion it would be rejected. but you took offense that she evoked pope francis. >> the night before she defended partial-birth abortion she said it's between the doctor and the woman. what about the baby. pope francis defends the right to light yet she called on him to defend her position on the ecology. pope francis says he's pro-life. i wish hillary clinton would change her position.

but don't try to pretend the pope is endorsing her by quoting him selectively. partial-birth abortion is a horrendous crime. her defense it the other night really upset me. we are talking about babies here. children in the process of being born, it's not any medical treatment to kill them. she defended that the other night, and that was very upsetting. good to see you as always. bill? bill: the chicago cubs a game away from their first world series appearance in 70 years. the cubs beat the l.a. dodgers. national league playoff. add on russell went deep. gave the cubs a 3-2 edge. cubs haven't been to the world series since 1945.

tomorrow they go back to wrigley field in chicago. i think this is fantastic for baseball, whether it's cleveland in chicago. >> it will be a great series. after the debate i was asking people on twitter, who do you think won the debate? i think about a third of them said the cubs. bill: a diver check out a great white shark. this is not the way it's supposed to go. that's a great white. martha: they left the door open. hillary clinton doubling down on her defense of the state department iing it was not up for sale. we just learned about $12 million to the moroccan government in a pay-for-play deal. we'll talk to the clinton team about that coming up next.

>> emails show donors got special access to you. can you say you kept your pledge to that senate committee and why isn't what happened and what went on between you and the clinton foundation, why isn't what mr. trump call pay-to-play?

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bill: 17 minutes before the hour. >> why isn't what mr. trump calls pay-to-play. >> everything i did as secretary of state was in furtherance of our country's interests and values. the state department said that. i think that has been proven. bill: hillary clinton did not answer chr the pay-to-play allegations. new wikileaks documents show $12 million from the king of morocco. david who wins in 18 days, but the clintons can raise a lot of money. >> i have had my emails with john podesta posted on wikileaks. i noticed discrepancies. but we had to talk first and foremost. bill: you are saying you have got emails that are not public

and are not across flat. >> i don't believe so. i can't talk about it on fox. but i'm pursuing appropriate channels. bill: this has not been denied. hillary clinton negotiated, huma abedin is on the emails talking about the exchange. ultimately she did not attend but her husband and daughter did. >> as i say the vladimir putin email dump is not where i would go for my information, thank you, mother russia. let's assume for the sake of argument that all these emails are accurate. here is how i would approach it. that would be bad. that is something i would distance myself from. if you are talking about a charity that says i'll make a speech if you make a

contribution, show me a charity that does operate that way. bill: it was done a month after she announced her campaign. here is the issue. chris wallace put the focus on it the other night. she made a pledge in twine that the clinton foundation -- that we would not mud why it waters. now to many it appears that was an impossible thing to do based on the amount of money coming in not just in this country, but countries all over the world. >> if you want to talk more broadly. i thought you were talking about this particular incident where she was no longer secretary of state. she was no longer secretary of state. she negotiated contributions. secretary of state, bill. here is where i come down. corruption is where official government action is taken in exchange for personal gain. show me where that happened in this case and i will condemn it. what i think happened here was hillary clinton did not give a

speech, herred a advisers said it was a bad idea. if she did it would be as a private sit season with her own charity to give an appearance form something that strikes me charities do all the time. was it appropriate for the clinton family to have a charity. then you have to ask if there were official actions taken at state as a result of the contribution, so far no one has proven that. i think the clintons are good enough to understand their charity work and her official work. >> she says everything i did was in furtherance of our country's interests and values. how do you allow russian company to the get the contracts for the our train yum deposits all over the world? >> now, you don't like russia. you liked them when they gave donald trump diamonds but now, you don't like russia.

bill: we allowed russia to get access to uranium deposits in this country and all over the world. >> you love russia when they give you emails. bill: i'm not saying anything about russia. i'm saying the fact that the clinton foundation helped negotiate these deals. while she was secretary of state companies in the russia were given access to the iranian mines. aye my question for you is this. is that okay? >> i'm going to say this again. if you can show me that an official action was taken in exchange for a contribution -- maybe this something you will understand. bill do you not want to answer the question? >> i just did, bill. show me the official action.

you can't. and you know what, bill? you can try to help donald trump all you want in this campaign. bill: this is not about trump. >> that's exactly what you are saying. you are putting your thumb on the scale for donald trump. bill: this is about america. >> how about the russians spying on our political process. say on the air you don't like russia trying to interfere with our elections. bill: certainly i do not. but you don't have proof russia is doing this. >> 17 agencies have said. do you know more than they do. bill: my turn. david, thanks for coming on. it may be true ultimately that russia is responsible for this. but we don't have the fingerprint evidence that that's the case. i'll talk to you real soon. please don't put words into my

mouth. we'll find out about that in time. we'll find out about the voting booth, too, bill. bill: thank you, david, enjoy your weekend. martha: oh, man. all right. mob denied the contents of those emails yet. if you found emails that were leaked you would say i didn't write that. those are not my emails. but nobody has said that. the talking point is none of the content matters because we should be worried more about the russians leaked it. that is as concern and it is being investigated but you can't negate both sides of the story for only that part. bill: we move forward. martha: is this edward snowden

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considering espionage charges for a man accused of stealing information. investigators say he stole as much as edward snowden. reporter: these include some of our got's most highly guard secrets including our cyber weapons and capabilities. over the course of 20 years harold more on iii stole what they describe a breath taking amount of information. they found thousands of pages of classified documents including many marked secret and top secret. the f.b.i. seized 50 terabytes of stolen data. it's a massive amount of highly classified information which the

f.b.i. agent said they found care lessley lying around his home in the open and in his car. the prosecutors indicated this could end up being the largest theft of classified data in history. martha: do you know a motive? reporter: he told prosecutors he was bringing his work home to study it and do better at his work. but prosecutors are concerned there were more nefarious reasons behind it. they are concerned he was going to sell it to foreign governments. they said given the nature of the secrets he represents tremendous value to foreign powers that may wish to shelter him within or outside of the united states. bill: it was suppose to be light heard the and got a little uncomfortable. donald trump and hoik going

after one another. some are wondering how low can it go?

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♪ martha: donald trump standing his ground and setting things straight, the latest controversy is over accepting the election results. welcome to the a brand new hour, everybody, on a friday, hour two of "america's newsroom," i'm martha maccallum. bill:ing how you feeling? martha: good, how you doing? how about you take the whole weekend off? bill: i'll give it to you two. i'm bill hemmer, good morning. donald trump has been defending his reluctance to accept the election results if it's close or perhaps if it doesn't look right. that controversy refusing to die down as the candidates hit the trail today. trump and mike pence are in north carolina, pennsylvania, new hampshire. hillary clinton's in ohio. tim kaine is in pennsylvania.

and here is donald trump from delaware county north of columbus, ohio, yesterday. >> i would like to promise and pledge to all of my voters and supporters and to all of the people of the united states that i will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election if i win! [cheers and applause] martha: there you go. all right. fox news sunday anchor chris wallace making his first appearance on fox since moderating the final presidential debate. good to see you. great to see you this morning. >> well, good to be with you. martha: let me be the first officially on fox to say what a fantastic job you did, and i

think it gave all of them some chills when they introduced chris wallace of fox news moderating that debate and made us all proud. >> thank you, martha. martha: so when he made that comment at the debate and you held his feet to the fire, pointing out the history behind the decision to accept the results, what did you think about that in the moment, and what did you make of his parry on that yesterday in ohio? >> i thought it was a big deal, and an unprecedented deal, and i had no doubt, you know, i was a moderator, but i'm also a newsman, and i know news when n context. made. sure, al gore contested the election when it turned out that it came town to 500 -- came down to 500 votes in florida. that's a very different deal. we've seen that with close elections in the past. but trump has been saying for, what, the last two weeks at least that the election is rigged and hillary clinton and her supporters are trying to steal it.

and it was a big enough issue that mike pence, trump's running mate, was asked on sunday will you accept the results of the election, be and he said that he and trump will, quote, absolutely accept the results. so it was obviously something i needed to ask him because trump hadn't said that. and as you point out, when e asked him the first time and he said, well, we'll see, i thought it was important to put it in the historical context that we're talking about, one of tenets of our democracy, one of the strengths of our democracy which is you have a hard-fought campaign, and then at the end even if you don't like the results, the loser supports the winner and says there's only one president. and so i wanted to put it in that context as i re-ask ised him the question, and he said, we'll see, i'm going to keep you in suspense. to the best of my knowledge, that is unprecedented, to make that kind of statement particularly in the context of saying that the election is rigged and the danger of being

stolen. martha: yeah. i thought that was a really significant line as well when he said i'm going to leave you in suspension. he likes to build the drama, we've seen that over the course of this, but as you pointed out quite accurately, he's sort of playing with something that we all sort of accept to be one of the truths, one of the solid truths of democracy. there's been a lot of back and forth. he also clarified it this way, let's play a little bit of this from the same rally yesterday and get your thoughts. >> of course, i would accept a clear election result, but i would also reserve my right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a questionable result. [cheers and applause] right? and always i will follow and abide by all of the rules and traditions of all of the many candidates who have come before me. always. martha: so he could have said that the other night -- >> i was going to say, that's a much better answer, and i don't think there would have been

nearly the stir had he said that on wednesday night in front of 71 million people. but he didn't say that. martha: before i let you go, what'd you think about last night, the alfred smith dinner? >> i was disappointed in both of them, particularly in trump. i don't mean to dump on him, but, you know, i've been covering these elections since 1980, and, you know, the al smith dinner, you can say it's old-fashioned or silly or whatever -- obviously, it's not silly in the sense that that it raises millions for catholic charities, but that they get dressed up in the white tie and all of that. there is a kind of elegance, and this gets back to the same issue, martha, which is these elections are hard fought, but there needs to be a sense that we're not running off the rails and there's no danger that we're not going to come together after an election. part of that is the al smith dinner. and i can remember, you know, with ronald reagan or barack obama, with a certain dignity

and class, romney last time, you know, making some self-depracating jokes and then taking maybe a couple of light, slightly cutting, but within the bounds shots at to opponent. but i do think trump went over the line. i thought clinton was somewhat unpleasant, but, you know, for trump to be talking about crooked hillary and she was kicked off the commission and, you know, she doesn't -- she's pretending that she likes catholics, and, you know, you could tell the crowd was kind of shocked by it and booed him. that's the first time i know that anybody has ever been booed at an al smith dinner. this needs to be -- as tough and as divisive as these elections are, this needs to be some glue that binds us together, and be i'm afraid we're in danger of losing that glue. martha: well put. dignity and class, humility, grace, all those nice qualities that i think everybody would have found a sense of relief from if they had seen some of

that go back and forth last night, because there's a lot of anxiety in this country about election, and it was an opportunity that i think was really missed last night to sort of put some, put a little bit of whipped cream and cherry on top of that which they certainly did not do last night at all. chris, again, congratulations on a job well done. >> thank you, martha. martha: tune into fox news sunday, chris wallace will sit down with kellyanne conway, plus an exclusive about the race pitting newt gingrich and javier becerra, that is at 2 p.m. and 10 p.m. eastern on fox news this weekend. bill: bill another wikileaks dump as a brand new batch of e-mails is released from the account of campaign chairman john to podesta. the campaign already reeling from the latest revelations giving the appearance of pay to play. ed henry's live in studio, what did we learn about the interactions with the king of

morocco? >> hillary clinton just blew right past it, never came back to it and only wanted to talk about the good things of the foundation. have they done good things,? sure. what we learned from wikileaks yesterday -- this came from not a clinton critic, it came from huma abedin. she wrote an e-mail saying hillary clinton really wanted to give this speech in morocco because she, hillary clinton, as a former secretary of state had lined up $12 million from the king of morocco to go to the clinton foundation to set up this big conference in morocco. people are are making a big deal about the former president getting a million dollar check from qatar. fine, this is 12 times that. this is big money. i think the point is if you go back to when hillary clinton was up, her nomination for secretary of state, republican senator richard lugar said what about these potential conflicts? and hillary clinton and everyone else swore up and down that they were not going to have conflicts of interest.

and then there's another e-mail in the last couple days where doug band, a clinton intimate, said there are 500 conflicts here. bill clinton was pocketing money, cash to himself, not to the foundation, from three different sponsors of the clinton global initiative and that some of these sponsors were giving bill and hillary clinton gifts that they had in their home. these are just the e-mails going back and forth, but it certainly looks like there's a lot going on. bill: and they haven't said, hey, the e-mail's fake. >> they haven't challenged thing accuracy at all. bill: are you okay with russia spying on us. 25,000 more, apparently -- >> yeah. there's 25,000 already, and wikileaks is saying today that there will be 50,000 total e-mails, john podesta and maybe other democrats, by election day. you've only got a couple weeks left. bill: there was a little teaser about tim kaine? >> yeah. wikileaks is saying get ready, tim kaine, and donna brazile, the dnc chair. another e-mail that came out,

suggesting there was some coordination with either someone at cnn or another network working with cnn at a forum for hillary clinton where hillary clinton got the question through donna brazile, and that exact question was asked by roland martin. donna brazile's been through this before. i think an interesting piece is that republican marco rubio has said, be careful, republicans, don't make too much of this because at the end of the day, it could be wikileaks or someone else, they're going to be coming after the rnc or republican senators sir. bill: i would just prefer to have a conversation in person. [laughter] we had a good one this morning. you brought nothing. >> i brought -- bill: ed henry, he's here in new york. keep going, you look good. [laughter] martha: we're going to take another look at some of the highlights from last night at the dinner from the waldorf-astoria. both of the candidates did have some big jokes and then some deep digs that didn't go quite as well. plus, there's this -- [gunfire]

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there's some new information that came out in e-mails from the clinton campaign showing perhaps the most stunning example of alleged pay for play that we have seen yet. a conversation from clinton staffers showing a $12 million donation that hillary clinton secured for a speech in morocco, and this, you know, trade-off for the speech and the money was arranged by hillary clinton according to these e-mails. top aide huma abedin writing: she created this mess x she knows it. now, the reason they're calling it a mess is because it was right after she announced she was going to run for president, and the speech was going to take place merchandise the window of running -- inside the window of running for president. hi, you guys, good morning. good to have you both here. let's put up this full screen from robby mook which goes into a little bit more detail here. came up on our call with hrc, he says, referring to the arrangement to go do this speech

for $12 million, and he goes on to say john flagged the same issues we discussed, huma. hrc said she is still considering. abedin replies: the condition upon which the moroccans agreed to host the meeting was her participation. our office approached the the moroccans, and they 100% belief they are doing this at her request. the king has personally committed approximately $12 million. tony, your thoughts. >> well, it shows, first, the egregious lengths that hillary clinton herself had went to really enrich herself and the foundation. this was done when she was an announced candidate for president, her advisers strongly recommended against it. there was a clear line of ethics and impropriety that was crossed there. and the fact that she was the negotiator, she was the one who brought up the idea and negotiated with the king in and of itself, i think, just shows her character in this matter which has been called into question. the second piece, martha, is what donald trump asked her in the debate.

in 2011 the hillary clinton state department called the government of morocco corrupt at all levels. and here she is now four years later negotiating a speech for $12 million with the king, putting all those concerns to the side. shows a huge hypocrisy there. martha: the time frame's very important in terms of what happened when. she had left the state department, and she had not run for president yet, and this happened in the middle of that window, and that's why they're saying this could get messy. you referred to what donald trump said. let's watch this. >> these are people that kill women and treat women horribly, and yet you take their money. so i'd like to ask you right now why don't you give back the money that you've taken from certain countries that treat certain groups of people so horribly. why don't you give back the money. i think it would be a great gesture. martha: it would be. >> well, first of all, that money was going for charity, it wasn't going to enrich her. look, i've been very critical about her involvement in the

foundation. i think the foundation should never have been set up in the first place because she was a senator, and there's obviously allegations of quid pro quo as senator and secretary of state. i'm not coming to this saying that the foundation in the first place was a great idea. however, the timing here is very important. she was a private citizen at the time, she was no longer secretary of state. she was doing this, again, for her charity. what is optically bad is that she was thinking about doing this after she'd already announced that she was running for president. i, frankly, if i were looking at the opt you cans of -- optics of this would have said don't get involved in the foundation at all once she became a senator. but having said that, that's optics. that's not ethics. martha: you know what? what we haven't seen in the past is her direct involvement and this back and forth that shows you just how fuzzy the lines are between the foundation and the state department. and be when huma abedin says our office, not sure which office she's talking about -- >> well, this was after state. martha: understood.

but, you know, we don't know when the original discussions were made for this. so the lines are so fuzzy and, yes, a lot of the money went to the foundation, but we also know there were speeches for millions of dollars, bill clinton with the king of qatar. >> and a significant amount of the foundation's money went toward paying salaries and -- martha: yeah. they don't have good ratings in terms of how much went to charity. >> typically, an all-charitable gift is not correct. abc last week obtained through freedom of information documents and e-mails that showed during the haitian earthquake relief effort special privilege was given to donors to the clinton foundation, friends of bill clinton himself, by her state department. nearly $10 billion in contracts. we know from the earliest reporting that major, one-fifth of american uranium was given to a canadian company with big ties, donor ties to the clinton foundation that then sold it to the russians. this is, again, another one of those trickling examples, to

your point, of potential pay to play and corruption/solution. to your point, this is the first one where she herself conducted it and was at the center of. martha: but she did approve the uranium deal. >> correct, that's right. >> yes, but i do want to be clear in this, she did this two or three years after he left the state department as a private citizen, and that is a huge distinction to be made when it comes to corruption -- >> correct. but she had announced running for president. >> again, optically is a really bad decision to have made. nevertheless, it is not illegal, it's not even unethical, it's just bad optics. had she done this at the state department, i think that's a whole different story. martha: i just think donald trump makes a valid point when you look at these governments and way they treat g be ay people -- gay people, people being thrown off the roofs of buildings, women being stoned for adultery, and hundt has built her whole career on improving the lives of women and

children she claims, and then you look at these instances and to be okay with taking money from some of these countries is something that -- >> i do want to say this about donald trump, he takes a lot of money from russia according to his own -- martha: he's a private businessman. totally different. >> no, it's not different, because the russians have awful, awful human rights records, and he has no problem -- >> no one has done more business the russians than the hillary clinton state department and the clinton foundation. >> what are you talking about? >> it's part of the public record -- martha: stick around for round two. [laughter] thank you guys very much. bill be bill you guys should have your own show. [laughter] an american has been killed in iraq as the battle intensifies against isis, and isis not going easily. general jack carly fiorina a moment. plus, an suv, check this out, barreling into a bus stop injuring several children. >> there is a baby under the vehicle. >> okay. >> don't move him too much, don't move him -- >> don't move anyone. life and death. 600 dollars. of abuse. important step forward. the time is long overdue... pharmaceutical industry. passes -

martha: so an suv plowed through a bus stop in kentucky injuring three children, two of them critically. police say the driver apparently didn't see the children when he swerved to avoid a school bus that was stopped with its lights flashing. the frantic aftermath caught on this tape, call to 911, rather. >> there is a baby under the vehicle. >> okay. >> don't move him too much, don't move him -- >> just don't, don't move anyone. >> [inaudible] don't move 'em. >> i have a student that was hit at 22nd and -- [inaudible] martha: officials say that the driver was also hospitalized in serious condition. he will be charged with driving without registration or insurance. bill: major operation right now underway to retake the town of

mosul in northern iraq from isis control. the life of an american soldier has been taken so far who was killed by an ied in this battle that is shown here. [gunfire] bill: so we believe that to the iraqi soldiers there firing into the town the terror group responding to efforts to oust them with two deadly attacks today in another town, kirkuk, at least 11 dead there. retired four-star general, jack keane, chairman of the institute for the study of war, how you doing, general? good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: you basically have two fadeses for this -- phases for this, phase one is underway. generally speaking, how is it going? >> well, they're starting to meet some stiffer resistance, and certainly that was predicted. what isis, by and large, does when the forces are approaching and they can see there's a mass of forces approaching them, they'll run out a suicide

vehicle bomber the try to create as many casualties as they can. they're also using small arms, not -- that's pretty typical for this kind of a fight, and they also use mortars to also slow the advance. but the facts are while the resistance is stiffer, the reality is the iraqi army and the peshmerga or kurds are where they want to be. they have advanced to a point where they've gobbled up about 20-plus towns and villages in phase one. and fizz -- phase one is preparation for the assault on the city. they'll bring up the logistics and ammunition and everything that they need as they secure almost an encirclement of mosul in the north, the east and the south. they're leaving the west open so that isis can actually retreat as the attack begins in mosul in what they are calling phase two. bill: okay. 4,000 fighters, maybe 5,000. we'll see if the strategy works to allow them to leave.

if they do, the point that hillary clinton made the other night is that you retake mosul and force all the fighters back into syria, then you go after raqqa. is that a the long-term strategy? be. >> well, we really don't have a long-term strategy to defeat isis in syria which is their sanctuary. it's where their headquarters is, bill. it's where from which they have been able to expand into 30 affiliates in other countries and where they've motivated people to kill fellow citizens around the world. so that has always been, in military terms, what we've referred to as the center of gravity. but we have never had a coherent plan to destroy that sanctuary, and we still do not have that. bill: yeah. last question, general. i get the sense with a town like mosul with more than a million people that you're going to have fighting that will be street to street and house to house. >> it reminds me of what our marines did in fallujah to take back control of that city. is that a potential scenario

that these iraqi soldiers, the shia militia, the kurds now face, ultimately? >> yes. this is classic urban warfare. the isis will defend in those buildings, obviously. they also have tunnels. they have a maze of ieds and mines that are going to be obstacles to the assault, certainly. the attacking forces will go very slowly not only to protect their own lives, but they're very concerned about the civilian lives that likely isis will try to use as many civilians as possible to shield themselves from the assault. now, the lead unit making the assault is the iraqi counterterrorism force which led the assault in fallujah and also in ramadi. they are very experienced, they are trained by our special operations guys. they are the very best that the iraqi army has. there'll be other iraqi army units, and there'll also be some sunni tribal force units, but they will be the lead element, and they're very good at what

they do. bill: we're going to talk about this a lot, general, as you know. thank you, sir. jack carly fiorina washington d.c. good to have you back. martha: new developments in the e-mail investigation, the latest on the push for james comey to release more information on the allegations of the quid pro quo. what congress -- what congressional republicans say they are looking for now. >> i think that in the case of hillary clinton, what jim comey said when he talked about all the things that she said and all the things that we now know she lied about, i mean, did she lie to the fbi or not?

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in classified off a few of those documents if they would so oblige. catherine herridge joins us live in washington. good morning. >> reporter: thank you, martha. based on this new letter to james comey, the bureau must now provide all of the records about the alleged quid pro quo by thursday next week. fbi deputy director andrew mckay must brief congressional staffers immediately on why criminal charges were not pursued for a senior state department executive and why the fbi agent involved was never interviewed or the subject of disciplinary action. these allegations came to light after the fbi released another 100 pages from its clinton investigative file. the oversight committee chairman said the bureau downplayed the cig think cannes of these records -- significance of these records. >> the fbi thought this information was not relevant. and that is just stunning to me because this is some of the most unbelievable set of documents that we've seen to date, and it

really goes to the core of why we're so concerned and why we have to continue to do vigorous overnight. >> reporter: fox news is seeking comment from the fbi and whether they can meet next week's deadline. martha: what are we learning about the clinton e-mail at the heart of all this, catherine? >> reporter: this is a significant document because it was one of two that kickstarted the fbi investigation last year. it comes from november 18, 2012, it has the subject line forward fyi report of arrest, possible benghazi connection. it contains classified information with the b1 markings, and entire sections of this e-mail are redacted citing confidential sources as well as foreign and law enforcement activities. heavily redacted fbi interview summaries report that patrick kennedy, a trusted lieutenant to secretary clinton, wanted to deep six this benghazi e-mail and apply a classification code that would allow him to archive it in the state department's basem*nt.

in exchange, the fbi would get coveted slots for agents overseas. in the end, neither happened, and now the state department is casting doubt on the competency of fbi investigators as well as the accuracy of the fbi interviews. >> is it the state department's position that the fbi interviews contain significant errors? >> they're notes, actually, from interviews. they're not facts, conclusions, investigate i work. -- investigative work. >> reporter: why was patrick kennedy working so hard to bury this e-mail? >> again, i can't speak for recollections in an interview. >> reporter: an fbi 302 is considered to be a document of record, martha, just for context. meantime, the republican chairman of house judiciary committee has asked the attorney general to investigate patrick kennedy for possible violations of corruption law ares. martha: we know repeatedly finish. >> reporter: correct. shows intent. martha: very important for him to pursue. great work as always, catherine. thank you very much. >> you're welcome.

bill: so 18 days to go, and donald trump is on the trail today. he'll be in north carolina, and he's defending his right to challenge the results of the election. trump telling a crowd in the ohio he will accept the outcome if he wins. [laughter] sarah huckabee sanders with me now, senior adviser for the trump team. he also say he reserves his right to the contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a questionable result. is this now behind the trump team? what is the status of this issue? let's start there, sarah. >> look, i think it is. donald trump's been very clear, he wants a fair election. i don't think anybody in america would want anything different than that. that's point he's trying to make. he absolutely will accept the results of a fair election, but he wants to reserve right the to challenge something if there seems to be corruption or some sort of inappropriate action taken by the other side. no different than we've seen or had many any past election.

we always have, every campaign has a staff of attorneys prepared to make a challenge if there's something that just doesn't fit right. so there's nothing happening different here than any other election. bill: if it's close, right? >> well, absolutely. bill: but wasn't that kind of -- >> the good news, bill, i don't think it's going to matter. i think donald trump is going to win and win deceasively -- decisively. bill: is that the nuance he was missing from his argument on wednesday night? >> i don't think so. we want a fair election, and we want to reserve the right to challenge. look, it's the democrats that did this when we had a fair election in 2000 when they challenged, al gore challenged george w. bush. this is something that they've done in the past. i think it's very hypocritical that they're now trying to raise a big, fake be outrage -- fake outrage that donald trump would reserve the right to challenge something if there's an in-fair action that's taken. bill: sarah, you have 18 days. polling suggests the election's moving away from you.

we'll see what happens in a couple days once we start to digest the events of w what is the strategy, sarah, with 18 days to go to win? >> look, actually, three of the last three national polls that have come out show trump leading. but i think it's very simple. one of two people are going to be president after this election is over, either hillary clinton or donald trump. be people are sick and tired -- if people are sick and tired of business as usual, a pay-to-play, scandal-ridden candidate bull of corruption that's -- full of corruption that's controlled by the washington and wall street elites, then hillary clinton is their candidate. if they're wanting somebody who can come in and shake up washington and really make some significant changes there, then donald trump is their candidate. that's the contrast we want to makeover the next 18 days. and i think that is why donald trump is going to win in november, because that's what people are looking for. 70% of americans are still demanding change in this election, and donald trump is the only candidate that can bring that. bill: we'll see what we get on november 8th.

thank you so much for coming back, sarah huckabee sanders, with the trump team today. >> you bet, bill. martha: so it's a tradition during the campaign season, and it's supposed to be a night of good-natured ribbing. cardinal dolan there in between the two candidates. did take a bit of an ugly turn, donald trump and hillary clinton both went low, shall we say, going after each other at the charity event. more on the jokes that landed -- some of them did land pretty well -- and the others that just didn't go over so well. >> hillary isn't laughing as much as the rest of us. that's because she knows the jokes. and all of the jokes were given to her in advance of of the dinner by donna brazile. i work 'round the clock.

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speech, and everyone loves it. it's fantastic. they think she's absolutely great. my wife melania gives the exact same speech. [laughter] and people get on her case. martha: you could tell she knew that one was coming, she started laughing before the punchline. donald trump having some fun last night at the al smith deal. traditionally, this is a moment for light-hearted banter, everybody comes together, some levity at the end of a hard-fought campaign. but this year just a little too much edge last night. watch. >> now, i'm told hillary went to confession before tonight's event. but priest was having a hard time when he asked her about her sins, and she said she couldn't remember 39 times. [laughter]

>> speaking of health, donald has been very concerned about mine, very concerned. he actually sent a car to bring me here tonight. actually, it was a hearse. [laughter] martha: let's bring in dan henninger, good to see you this morning. >> thank you, martha. martha: what do you think? >> well, i thought it was an opportunity for donald trump to gain some friends at the al smith dinner. i mean, everybody in politics knows that for years the idea is to go in there and make self-depracating jokes at your own expense. trump certainly made a good joke at melania's expense, but when he got around to hillary clinton, got off a few good lines, but then he started talking as though he were in the debate, calling her corrupt and so forth. it wasn't funny. and the audience began, some of them, to boo and heckle donald trump. watching it, martha, i thought this is kind of like a metaphor for the campaign which is to say at this point in the campaign,

donald trump's at around 40 her 41 -- 40 or 41%. he has to make 5 or 6% of voters in places like pennsylvania and north carolina have a reason to like him. and to support him. but he seems incapable of appealing to those people. just as he was uncapable of winning over this crowd last night. it's kind of a deficit in the middle of that candidacy. martha: all good points. let's take a look at one other moment that -- this one actually landed fairly well in the room. watch this one. >> i know hillary met my campaign manager, and i got the chance to meet the people who are working so hard to get her elected. there they are, the heads of nbc -- [laughter] cnn, cbs, abc. there's "the new york times" right over there and "the washington post."

martha: you know, the room was receptive. i mean, as i said before when they both walked in and got applause, i would say it was about equal. and as you say, everybody wants to like both of them in this environment. i felt they were very open to both candidates. but that opportunity just sort of went by the wayside once he started to go, you know, sort of darker and deeper as you pointed out. >> yeah. let's talk a little bit about hillary. her jokes were funny by comparison, but she wasn't exactly don rickles in there. she delivered her jokes, and then at the end she got into a very serious, extend thing about catholicism and anti-catholicism, trying to appeal to the catholics there. i i thought it fell flat. it was good works, but she has such a hard time sounding authentic. she has real vulnerabilities out there in the campaign, and it's those vulnerabilities that donald trump should be going after. in the content of her campaign on taxes, on redistribution.

i think that's what that 6% is looking for. the reasons they want change has to do with taxes, regulation, the state of the economy. and if donald trump would talk to them about that, i think he could close the gap in some of these battleground states right now. martha: yeah. at strongest moments in his campaign were in september when he did speeches, all one after other, very substantive, staying very focused on exactly the things you talk about; lowering taxes for corporations, getting regulations off the backs of small businesses in this country. is it too late for him to close that gapsome. >> given the nature of this campaign, i don't think it's too late. remember when he did that, he came neck and neck with her. the democrats were in a panic. they were saying, my god, this guy could win x. then they had the debate, and then for three todays we were talking about miss universe of 1997 and all the rest of this junk, and he dropped off. i think if he dedicated the next 18 days to doing what he did in that period before the first debate, he would have a shot at

getting close in these battleground states, but we'll see. martha: that's when he brought kellyanne conway onboard, perhaps he'd be wise to to go back to that mode and see if he can revisit september. we'll see. eighteen days to go. we like to keep it interesting. we want to see a close race election night. dan, thank you very much. >> thank you, martha. martha: eleven minutes before the hour. an eagle in the backseat of a squad car, and this is no jailbird. get it?

jon: eighteen days until the election, and the gloves are off as humor met harsh criticism at a big dinner last night in new york featuring hillary clinton and donald trump. new battleground polls to share in the fallout from the final debate. also clinton surrogates fanning

out in states including the normally red state of arizona, and donald trump expected to hold a rally are flesher, north carolina. it's -- fletcher, north carolina. it's all ahead, "happening now." martha: a rescue in florida that is for the bids. get it? a florida state trooper spots an american bald eagle by the side of the road. he places it in the backseat, takes him to a sanctuary. turns out the bird was hit by a car, but he was not seriously hurt. the trooper says he has a permanent reminder, the eagle's sharp talons leaving marks on the trooper's arms. i like that story. bill: good looking guy, isn't he? the international space station rolling out the welcome mat, new visitors arriving today, and phil keating's live in miami. finally getting some company, good morning. >> reporter: yeah. going from three people up there to six people, and be that could be great or maybe suddenly it feels a little too crowded depending on your space attitude. but nasa's shane kimbro making

his second trip to space, he did back in 2008. also with him two russians. they blasted off from kazahkstan two days ago. inside the soyuz capsule, kimbro ghei a thumbs up and wave on his way up, and the three space cowboys then orr witted earth 34 times over two days to get to where they are right now. that is at the huge july where early this morning they slowly and carefully approached the space station 250 miles above the earth with russia's mission control remotely docking the soyuz into the crosshairs. as is trucks, the old crew members heartily greeted with big smiles the new crew members, welcoming them to space and microgravity for the next four months. nasa's shane kimbro and his drugs crew mates now begin --

russian crew mates now begin their four month mission revolving up above us. >> have a great time and enjoy your time. >> thanks a lot. i'm glad you're representing the u.s. hello, everybody in houston. >> reporter: and arriving at the space station sunday is another spaceship, the virginia-based orbital atk's cargo ship which blasted off from wallace, virginia, three nights ago, spectacularly debuting a new rocket. and onboard, more than 5,000 pounds of supplies for the crew as well as the gear for dozens upon dozens of scientific investigations that they will now be conducting up in space. bill: like christmas, huh? santa game. [laughter] >> reporter: fresh food, fresh clothes. bill: phil keating in miami. martha: eighteen days to go, folks, hang in there. we are almost to the election. where are the candidates today? what are their strategies in the final weeks? wow, it is a tense time.

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♪ martha: great pumpkin patch. metlife insurance handing out pink slips to snoopy and peanuts pang, ending 31-year branding campaign. the company's shift from consumer business to group insurance and international operations. getting rid of the snoopy blimp. what is that about? good grief! jon: that ain't right. a bad day when snoopy gets fired. martha: what makes happier than the music. five cents for psychiatric help. good deal the insurance. bill: sign says it right there. i had a great time with you in las vegas. martha: we had a great trip.

bill: we'll do a flashy debut for studio. martha: it is fantastic. can't wait for you at home to see it. bill: big reveal on election night. martha: we'll be here until the big day as far as we know at this point. take t weekend off. you too. we'll see you monday. jon: we're awaiting a big rally by donald trump as he fights to regain ground lost to hillary clinton just 2 1/2 weeks before americans make their final decision at ballot box. hello, happy friday. welcome to "happening now." i'm jon scott. rosanna: i'm jenna lee. the pair were shaking hands at al smith charity dinner in

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